tavis: so it's clicking, yeah. >> everything starts leading to the next thing, and basically what happens is you don't pay attention to the time anymore. tavis: i got it. [laughter] and then it's 5:00. >> and then whatever time it is, it is, but you know, like, you're in it and you're not forcing it. it's, like, natural. it's natural. it's just happening. it's natural. and then there it is. tavis: you mentioned collaborating. this, to my mind, and you might -- you know your stuff better than i do. i know it fairly well. but to my mind, this is one of the most collaborative projects that you've done. >> it is. tavis: yeah. >> it is, i've never done a collaborative -- tavis: yeah, not this stuff. >> i've never done a -- no, i haven't, and like i said, there was something that i wanted to start to see what would happen when i would combine with people that were from totally different spaces than me. it was just something, it was an experiment, i guess, and also a practice of just kind of like being free, not being contained. i think sometimes we get so comfortable, like, being, or doing whatever we do. this is how we do it, and then we come home at this time and then we do this thing, and then i only do that, and then i kind of go here. so we're so comfortable. tavis: but they say if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and your stuff ain't been broke.